NameMary Frances (Mamie) LAIDMAN, 2, Q1065
Birth15 Apr 1876, Walker, NBL
Death2 Sep 1946, Southampton, HAM Age: 70
Death MemoFamily Bible
FatherJames Harper LAIDMAN , 1163, P1061 (1851-1920)
MotherHannah HEAD , 1164 (1853-1936)
Misc. Notes
1881 census return: RG11/5071 folio 4 page 5
21 Denham Terrace, Wallsend, Northumberland
James H. Laidman, head, married, 27, Iron Ship Plater (Builder), born Hartley, Northumberland
Hannah Laidman, wife, married, 27, born Walker, Northumberland
Mary F. Laidman, daur. 4, born Walker, Northumberland
William Laidman, son, 2, born Wallsend, Northumberland

1891 census return: RG12/4237, folio 7, page 10.
Blyth (Northumberland), 36 Stanley Street
James H. Laidman, head, M[arried], 40, ShipBuilder, employed, [born] Northumberland, Hartley
Hannah Laidman, Wife, M, 37, born Northumberland, Walker
Mary F. Laidman, Daur, S[ingle], 14, Scholar, born Northumberland, Walker
William Laidman, Son, S, 12, Scholar, born Northumberland, Walker
James H. Laidman, Son, S, 7, Scholar, born Yorkshire, Hull
Ethel Laidman, Daur, S, 4, born Yorkshire, Hull
Norah K. Laidman, Daur, S, 2, born Ireland, Belfast
John H. Laidman, Son, S, 2mo, born Northumberland, Blyth

1901 census return: RG13/1074 folio 53 page 5
The Avenue (St. Johns Villa), Shirley, Southampton
John [sic] Harper Laidman, head, married, 50, Ship builder (Manager), born Northumberland, Hartley
Hannah Laidman, wife, married, 47, born Northumberland, Walker
Mary F. Smith, daur. widow, 24, born Northumberland, Walker
James H. Laidman, son, 17, Ship Draughtsman, worker, born Yorkshire, Hull
Ethel Laidman, daur. 14 born Yorkshire, Hull
Norah Laidman, daur. 12 born Ireland, Belfast
John H. Laidman, son, 10, born Northumberland, Blyth
Thomas Laidman, son, 6, born Hants. Southampton
Richard Laidman, son, 3, born Hants. Southampton
Margaret Holden, serv. single, 16, General Servant Domestic, born Lancs. Liverpool

1911 census return: RG14PN5952 RG78PN273A RD99 SD1 ED18 SN83
Hampshire, Southampton, 33 Avenue Road
Thomas Bailey, Head, Married, M, 36, 1875, Director and Manager, born Bournemouth Hants
Mamie Frances Bailey, Wife, Married 7 years, 33, 1878, born Wallsend on Tyne Northumberland
Arthur Laidman Bailey, Son, M, 6, 1905, born Southampton Hants

She was known as Mamie, the name appearing in the newspaper report of her father's funeral on 15 November 1920 (q.v.) when a wreath was presented "to father, from Mamie, Tom, and his grandsons Arthur and Douglas." She also appears as Mamie in the GRO entry for her second marriage in 1903.

Her grandson John Evelyn Laidman Bailey writes (October 2011): Mamie died of cancer (breast I think) at Littleden, Westrow Road, Southampton where I lived with my parents. She was buried in Southampton.

The monumental inscription on James Harper Laidman’s grave in Southampton Old Cemetery includes:

In Loving Memory of
James Harper Laidman
Dearly Loved Husband of Hannah Laidman
......
Also Hannah Laidman Who Died Nov 21, 1936 Aged 84 Years
......
And of Mary Francis Bailey ‘Mamie’
Beloved Eldest Daughter
Died Sep 2, 1946
Spouses
Birth1873, Lymington, HAM
Death1899
Occupation1891: Engine Fitter
FatherCharles SMITH , 2163
Misc. Notes
1891 census return: RG12/915 folio 53 page 49
Hants, Southampton, 24 Parsonage Rd.
Chas. Wm. Smith, Head, M, 53, Shipwright, Employed, born Lymington, Hants.
Ellen Smith, Wife, M, 52, born Romsey, Hants.
Alla[?] E. Smith, daur, S, 22, Dressmaker, Employed, born Lymington, Hants.
Harry Jno. Smith, son, S, 18, Engine Fitter, Employed, born Lymington Hants.
Wm. Chas Smith, son, S, 16, Ironmongers Apprentice, Employed, born Lymingtonm Hants.
Fredk[?] G. Smith, son, 14, Scholar, born Lymington Hants.

Harry SMITH'S residence at the time of his marriage to Mary Frances LAIDMAN is shown as Northam (marriage certificate).

According to data supplied by Gloria Laidman Harry SMITH died in the (second) Boer War in 1899. It must in any case have occurred before 1901 since in this census Mary Frances is described as a widow.
Marriage18 Sep 1899, Woolston, HAM
Marr MemoSt Mark
Misc. Notes
1899. Marriage solemnized at St. Mark’s Church in the Parish of Woolston in the County of Southampton
No. 294 September 18th 1899
Harry John Smith, 26, Bachelor, Engineer, Northam, [father] Charles Smith, Shipwright
Mary Frances Laidman, 23, Spinster, [no profession], Woolston, [father] James Harper Laidman, Shipbuilder
Married in the Church of S Mark according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, by licence or after _____ by me Geoffrey Hughes, Vicar
This marriage was solemnized between us,
Harry John Smith
Mary Frances Laidman
in the presence of us,
Mabel Watts
Alice Patherick
Birthca 1874, Bournemouth, HAM
Death1938, Southampton, HAM
Occupation1903: Builder; 1911: Director and Manager
FatherCharles George BAILEY , 21038 (1846-1890)
MotherEliza BURGOYNE , 21068 (1844-)
Misc. Notes
1903: Melrose, 49 Avenue Road, Southampton

1911 census return: RG14PN5952 RG78PN273A RD99 SD1 ED18 SN83
Hampshire, Southampton, 33 Avenue Road
Thomas Bailey, Head, Married, M, 36, 1875, Director and Manager, born Bournemouth Hants
Mamie Frances Bailey, Wife, Married 7 years, 33, 1878, born Wallsend on Tyne Northumberland
Arthur Laidman Bailey, Son, M, 6, 1905, born Southampton Hants

John Evelyn Laidman Bailey writes (October 2011): In the 1881 census, he was born in 1874 and the birth was registered in 1875 which could mean he was born around Christmas time. In the 1901 census, he was aged 26 and a builder’s clerk. This in fact was with Jenkins & Sons Ltd, Bournemouth, which he joined from school. In about 1903, he was transferred to and probably started up Jenkins in Southampton.

He married Mamie in 1903 and my father, Arthur Laidman was born on 5 June 1904 at 149 Above Bar St, Southampton. In Kelly's 1907, 149 Above bar was occupied by Jenkins & Sons which was presumably their office with living accomodation. J & S stayed there until at least 1925 (Kelly's). (They had a yard elsewhere in Southampton).

However, In Kelly's 1912/13, Thomas Bailey lived at 33 Avenue Road Southampton, but not in the next edition of 1916/17. I do not know where they then lived until Kelly's 1931/32, which gives their address as Littleden, Westrow Road Southampton, a house designed by my father and built by J & S. They stayed there until his death in his office in 1938. (England and Wales Death Index:
1916-2005).

Thomas Bailey was executor of his father-in-law James Harper LAIDMAN's will.

1937: 5 Carlton Road, Southampton, Hants
Marriage31 Aug 1903, Southampton, HAM
Marr MemoSt Marks
Misc. Notes
1899. Marriage solemnized at St. Mark’s Church in the Parish of Woolston in the County of Southampton
No. 294
When married: September 18th 1899
Harry John Smith, 26, Bachelor, Engineer, Northam, [father] Charles Smith, Shipwright
Mary Frances Laidman, 23, Spinster, [no profession], Woolston, [father] James Harper Laidman, Shipbuilder
Married in the Church of S Mark according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church, by licence or after _____ by me, Geoffrey Hughes, Vicar
This marriage was solemnized between us,
Harry John Smith
Mary Frances Laidman
in the presence of us,
Mabel Watts
Alice Patherick
ChildrenArthur Laidman , 569 (1904-1964)
 Thomas Douglas , 570 (1916-1986)
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