NameJohn LAIDMAN , 3125, N1169
Birth21 May 1798, Newington Butts, LND
Baptism17 Jun 1798, Newington Butts, LND Age: <1
Bapt MemoSt Mary
Death28 Sep 1879, Exeter, DEV Age: 81
Death MemoEaton Place
Occupation1841, 1851, 1854, 1871: Solicitor
FatherJonathan or John LAIDMAN , 3254, N1078 (ca1776-)
MotherJuliana GUNTHORP , 3255 (~1776-)
Misc. Notes
John Laidman moved from London and settled in Devon before 1823, since his marriage took place in that year in Exeter, and his first child was baptised there six months later.

1833: A bibliographical index may refer to this John Laidman: Subscribed to A Topographical Dictionary of England, comprising the several counties, cities, boroughs, corporate and market towns, parishes, chapelries, and townships, and the islands of Guernsey, Jersey, and Man, with Historical and Statistical Descriptions; illustrated by maps of the different counties and islands; A Map of England, shewing the principal towns, roads, railway, navigable rivers, and canals; and a plan of London and its environs; and embellished with engravings of the arms of the cities, bishopricks, universities, colleges, corporate towns, and boroughs, and of the seals of the several municipal corporations. Second edition. With an Appendix, describing the electoral boundaries of the several boroughs, as defined by the late Act. By Samuel Lewis Vol. I,. 1833, LEWIS, Samuel. London & Andover. Printed by S. Lewis and Co., 87, Aldersgate-Street. Bensley, printer, Andover.

1841 census return: HO107/266/19 folios 8-9 pages 38-39
Castle Street, Exeter, Devon
John Laidman, 43, Solicitor, N
Fanny Laidman, 45, Y
Charles Laidman, 16, Y
Francis Laidman, 10, Y
William Laidman, 6, Y
Martha Laidman, 2, Y
Charles Richards, 19, Clerk, Y
+ 2 servants

1851 Census Returns HO107/1869 folio 164 page 51
3 Bedford Circus, Exeter, Devon
John Laidman, head, married, 52, Solicitor, born Surrey Newington Butts
Fanny Laidman, wife, married, 56, born Devon Whitestone
William F.M. Laidman, son, 15, born Exeter, St Lawrence
+ housemaid & cook

The Times, 13 August 1841, pg. 7, col. B (news):
THE CONVICT WILLIAM MAJOR
(From the
Western Luminary)
We have much pleasure in stating, that Mr. Laidman has this morning received from his agents, Messrs. Clowes and Wedlake, through whom the memorial and recommendation were presented, the following communication in reply:—
"Whitehall, Aug. 9, 1841.
"Gentlemen,—I am directed by the Marquis of Normanby to acknowledge the receipt of a petition which you presented, on behalf of William Major, a convict, under sentence of death, at Exeter; and to acquaint you, that having carefully considered the same, together with a report on the case, which has been received from Mr. Baron Rolfe, his Lordship has, under all the circumstances, felt himself warranted in advising Her Majesty to spare the prisoner's life, for which purpose a respite will be forwarded to Exeter by this night's mail.
"I am, gentlemen, your obedient servant.
"S. M. PHILLIPPS.
"Messrs. Clowes and Wedlake, 10, King's Bench-walk."



Letter from John Laidman to Sir Robert Peel (British Library):

Exeter
5th August 1845

Sir

The untimely death of the lamented Sir William Follett having deprived me of my most influential Friend, will, I trust /with the Context/ be deemed by you a Sufficient Excuse for my troubling you, and as I can appreciate the great value of your time, I will be brief in my address.
Had that great Man lived he would have fulfilled his promise, oft repeated, to do anything his power to serve me." And I should no doubt ultimately have been appointed to a Registrarship in Bankruptcy or some other office.
I have many of Sir William’s Letters written in the course of the last 13 years / during which period I enjoyed his Confidence / in which he acknowledges the obligations – as he is pleased to term them that he was under to me; and it cannot be denied that I was mainly instrumental in his being first returned for Exeter, as all my Suggestions for fighting the City were adopted and he succeeded by upwards of 400 Votes, although previously beaten by a much greater Number! - such suggestions were likewise resorted to in Subsequent Elections, and I am proud to say that during all those years my Services were gratuitous, which fact, with all the Assertions I have before made, Sir William’s Brother, Mr R. B. Follett, the Taxing Master in Chancery can corroborate, and Sir John Buller, Sir Thomas Acland and Sir John Duckworth can also bear testimony, if required, to my Constant devotedness zeal and Activity in the great Cause of Conservatism; and I believe all those Gentlemen know that I was Stationed at Totnes / the hotbed of Radicalism / and assisted in the great Battle for South Devon when Lord John Russell was ousted – no Attorney being found in Totnes who would brave the fight, and that neighbourhood was managed entirely by Sir George Adams and myself.
I am an Attorney & Solicitor in this City of nearly 15 years standing, but the alterations in the Law of late years have deprived me of much of my practice, and as I have a Family, I am desirous of obtaining some permanent office. If therefore for the sake of my humble services for my Country, or, if not for them, for the sake of the Memory of my departed Friend Sir William Follett, you will condescend to honour me with some appointment (I am indifferent to its nature or locality so that it be in England) I would again say that I hope my past conduct and character are a safe guarantee for my duly and faithfully fulfilling its duties, and you will have the gratification of knowing that you have done good for one, who all his life, has Endeavoured to deserve it.

I have the honour to be
Sir
Your most obedient humble
Servant

To
The Right Honourable Sir
Robert Peel, Baronet

[Note: Sir William Webb Follett (December 2, 1798 - June 28, 1845), English lawyer. Educated at Exeter grammar school and Trinity College, Cambridge, graduating in 1818. He had entered the Inner Temple in 1816 and began to practise as a pleader below the bar in 1821, but was called to the bar in 1824, and joined the western circuit in 1825.
At the very outset his great qualifications were universally recognized. He was thoroughly master of his profession, and his rapid rise in it was due not only to his quick perception and sound judgment, but to his singular courtesy, kindness and sweetness of temper. In 1830 he married the eldest daughter of Sir Ambrose Harding Gifford, chief justice of Ceylon.
In 1835 he was returned to parliament for Exeter. In parliament he early distinguished himself, and under the first administration of Sir Robert Peel was appointed solicitor-general (November 1834); but resigned with the ministry in April 1835. In. the course of this year he was knighted. On the return of Peel to power in 1841 Sir William was again appointed solicitor-general, and in April 1844 he succeeded Sir Frederick Pollock as attorney-general.
But his health, which had begun to fail him in 1838, and had been permanently injured by a severe illness in 1841, now broke down, and he was compelled to relinquish practice and to visit the south of Europe. He returned to England in March 1845; but the disease, consumption, reasserted itself, and he died in London on the 28th of June following. A statue of Follett, executed by Behnes, was erected by subscription in Westminster Abbey.]

[p] 535
BANKRUPTS
Gazette--July 2, 1847.
COULSON Richard Carkeet, now or late of No. 29, North-strt, city of Exeter, grocer and tea dealer, as a trader with Mary Ann Bodley his wife (formerly called Mary Ann Bodley Frost); surren. 13th July, 10th Aug. eleven pr. Court, Exeter--Com. Bere--Official assignee, Hernaman--Sols. Laidman, Exeter, and Clowes and co. Temple
Fit dated June 25--Pet. Cr. Samuel Davies, of Exeter, wholesale tea dealer


[p] 542 Bankrupts--July 16, 1847.
SUGG John Wyatt, of Torquay, pa. Tormoham, co. Devon, architect and builder ; surren. 29th July, one, 24th Aug. eleven pr. Court, Exeter--Com. Bere--Official assignee, Hernaman--Sols. Laidman, Exeter, and Clowes and co. Temple.
Fiat dated July 9--Pet. Cr. William Hamlyn Hall, of Torquay, architect


Bankrupts--Sept. 7, 1847. [p] 681
Gazette--Sept. 7, 1847.
BALDY John Patey, of Devonport, co. Devon, apothecary; dir. & ch. ; surren. 23d Sept. one, 19th Oct. eleven pr. Court, Exeter--Com. Bere--Official assignee, Hirtzel--Sols. Laidman, Exeter, and Clowes and co. Temple.
Fiat dated Aug. 31--Bankrupt’s own petition.


Bankrupts - Oct. 8, 1847 [p] 758:
UGLOW Abel, of the pa. of St. Thomas the Apostle, co. Cornwall, miller and corn factor, dir. and ch.: surren. 19th Oct. half past ten, 17th Nov. eleven pr. Court, Exeter--Com. Bere--Official assignee, Hirtzel--Sols. Laidman, Exeter, and Clowes and co. Temple.
Fiat dated Oct. Oct. 2--Bankrupt’s own petition.


Bankrupts - Oct. 26, 1847 [p] 798:
HOOPER John, of Honiton, co. Devon, market gardener, dir. & ch.; surren. 4th 30th Nov. one pr. Court, Exeter:--Com. Bere--Official assignee, Hernaman--Sols. Laidman, Exeter, and Clowes and co. Temple.
Fiat dated Oct. 19--Bankrupt’s own petition.

1850: White’s Devonshire Directory, 1850: Attorneys: Laidman, John, Bedford Circus. Fire & Life Office Agts.: Guardian, J. Laidman, Bedford cir.

1851 Census Returns HO107/1869 folio 164 page 51
Whitestone, Exeter, Devon
John Laidman, head, married, 52, Solicitor, born Newington Butts
Fanny Laidman, wife, married, 56
William F.M. Laidman, son, 15, born Exeter

The Times, 13 October 1854, pg. 9, col. F (news):
MR. DISRAELI and the LICENSED VICTUALLERS
(From the Globe)
A meeting of deputations of licensed victuallers from Exeter, Plymouth, Devonport, Stonehouse, Tavistock, Newton, Torquay, Dartmouth, and other important towns in South Devon, was held at Webb's Royal Hotel, Torquay, on Saturday, October 7, for the purpose of representing to Sir J. B. Y. Boller and Mr. Lawrence Palk, the members for the southern division of the county, the disadvantages and oppressions under which all licensed victuallers at present labour. The opportunity was taken of the Right Hon. B. Disraeli, M.P., sojourning at Torquay to solicit his attendance, and he consented to be present.
…..
The deputations were introduced to the hon. members by Mr. John Laidman, solicitor to the Exeter Licensed Victuallers' Association….

1861 census return: RG9/1398 folio 25 page 41
9 Bedford Circus, Exeter
John Laidman, Head, Mar, 62, Solicitor & Treasurer of the City and Borough of Exeter, born Newington Butts, Surrey
Fanny Laidman, Wife, Mar, 65, born Whitestone, Devon
William Follett Laidman, Son, Un, 25, Medical Student, born Exeter, Devon
Elizabeth Berry, Sister in Law, Widow, ?68, Gentlewoman, born Whitestone, Devon
Elizabeth White, Serv, Un, 23, General Serv, born Hatherleigh, Devon
Elizabeth Barnett, Visitor, Widow, 50, Gentlewoman, born Hestford ^Wellington^ Somerset

The London Gazette, no. 22946, 7 March 1865, p. 1394:
Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership hereto-
fore subsisting between John Laidman and Dionysius
Williams Tremewen, of the city of Exeter, Solicitors,
Attornies and Agents, under the firm of Laidman and
Tremewen, was this day dissolved by mutual consent.—
Dated this 27th day of February, 1865.
D. W. Tremewen
J. Laidman

1871 census return: RG10/2068 folio 77 page 45
[Devonshire] Exeter, Precinct of Bedford, 9 Bedford Circus
John Laidman, Head, Mar, 72, Solicitor, born Newington Butts Surrey
Fanny Laidman, Wife, Mar, 74, born Whitstone [sic],, Devon
Elizabeth Berry, Sister in law, W, 82, born Whitstone [sic] Devon
Elizabeth Barnet, Lodger, W, 64, born Wellington Somerset
Emily Gleddon, Visitor, Unm, 35, born St. Davids, Exeter
Ann Milford, Serv, Unm, 35, Domestic Serv, born Ide Devon
Henry Way, Serv, Unm, 14, Domestic Serv, born North Tawton Devon

WILL:
This is the last Will and Testament of me John Laidman of the City of Exeter Solicitor made the twelfth day of December in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and seventy seven. I nominate and appoint my son in law William Joseph Richards of the City of Exeter Wine Merchant and Horace Charles Lloyd of the same City Tobacco Manufacturer Executors and Trustees of this my Will. I give and bequeath to the persons after named the sums hereinafter mentioned that is to say. To my sister Mary Ann French Widow the sum of Nineteen pounds and Nineteen shillings. To my brother Mark Laidman the sum of Nineteen pounds and Nineteen shillings. To my two unmarried Nieces Daughters of my deceased Brother Leonard the sum of Ten Guineas each. To my aforesaid Executors and Trustees the sum of Ten Guineas each. To my confidential and faithful Clerk Frank Bowring White the sum of Nineteen pounds and Nineteen shillings. To my trustworthy and faithful servant Ann Hellyer Milford the sum of Nineteen pounds and Nineteen shillings and to her Mother Lucinda the sum of Five pounds for her own sole and separate use independent of her husband. To Emily Gliddon the sum of Five Guineas and I direct that all such Legacies shall be paid as soon as conveniently may be after my decease. All the rest residue and remainder of my Real and Personal estate and Effects whatsoever and wheresoever I give devise and bequeath unto the said William Joseph Richards and Horace Charles Lloyd and the survivor of them their and his heirs executors and administrators Upon trust from time to time in their and his discretion to collect get in make sale and dispose of the same and every part thereof and to stand and be possessed of the Proceeds thereof after payment of my just debts funeral and testamentary expenses As to for and concerning Two fifth parts or shares of the nett proceeds thereof Upon trust for such of the Children of my deceased son Henry Lovegrove Laidman as shall be living at the time of my decease in equal shares and proportions As to for and concerning Two other fifth parts or shares of my said Residuary Real and Personal Estate and Effects Upon trust for my son Francis Marchant Laidman But should he die in my lifetime Then my Will is that such two last mentioned fifth parts or shares shall go to and belong to his children in equal shares and proportions and that as regards minors in receipt for the same if given signed by their Mother shall be a good and sufficient discharge to my said Executors and Trustees for all such last mentioned parts and shares And as to for and concerning the remaining one fifth part or share of my said Residuary Real and Personal Estate and Effects Upon trust for my Daughter Fanny Laura the wife of the said William Joseph Richards But should she die in my lifetime then my Will is that her said one fifth part or share shall go to and belong to such of her children as shall be living at the time of my decease in equal shares and proportions Provided and I hereby declare that the Executors and Trustees for the time being of this my Will shall be charged and chargeable with such sums only as they respectively shall receive by virtue of this my Will notwithstanding their joining in or signing any receipt or receipts for the sake of conformity And that they or any of them shall not be answerable for any loss which may happen in the execution of the trusts of this my Will or in relation thereto except the same shall happen by or through his or their wilful neglect or default And [further?] that it shall be lawful for my Executors and Trustees for the time being out of any moneys which shall come to their or his hands by virtue of the Trusts of this my Will to retain and also to allow to any other such trustees or trustee all costs and expenses and Fees to Counsel and Solicitors for advice which they or he may pay or incur in the execution of the trusts of this my Will or in relation thereto. I give devise and bequeath All estates which are now or shall at the time of my decease be vested in me In trust for any person or persons unto and to the use of them my aforesaid Trustees their heirs executors and administrators according to the nature and qualities thereof for all my Estate Term and Interest thereon according to the trusts affecting the same. Provided always and I hereby declare that the share and proportion of my Estate and Effects hereinbefore devised and bequeathed to or for my said daughter Wife of the said William Joseph Richards and her children shall be subject and liable whether she shall be living or dead at the time of my decease to the payment of Five hundred pounds and interest which is owing to Messieurs Sanders and Company of the Exeter Bank upon the joint and several Promissory Note of the said William Joseph Richards and myself such sum having been borrowed for his use to pay off the same sum or thereabouts to Mr. William John Belville of No. 6 Garlick Hill Cannon Street London on behalf of Mrs. Elizabeth Barrett on or about the twenty seventh day of July One thousand eight hundred and seventy five to whom the said William Joseph Richards was then indebted in that sum Provided also and I further declare that my said daughters said share and proportion of my said Estate and Effects shall also be subject and liable in manner aforesaid to the payment of the further sum of Five hundred pounds and interest which is owing to the National Provincial Bank of England at Exeter upon the joint and several Promissory Note of the said William Joseph Richards and myself dated the tenth day of December instant at six months after date such sum having been borrowed for his use to pay to his Partners on Account of their new Brewery Premises. And I hereby declare that I have merely added the two last mentioned Provisoes to this my Will by way of precaution only lest anything at present unforseen should happen by death or otherwise to frustrate the intention of this my Will But I have the most unbounded confidence in the integrity and probity of my said Son in Law and should he survive me I feel perfectly satisfied that he will himself discharge and pay the said two last mentioned sums of Five hundred pounds and Five hundred pounds and the interest thereof respectively and thereby render any operation of the aforesaid Provisoes quite unnecessary And lastly I hereby revoke all other Wills and Codicils by me at any time heretofore made and declare this to be my last Will and Testament In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand the day and year first above written.
Signed by the said John Laidman the Testator as and for his )
last Will and Testament in the presence of us being present at the ) J. Laidman
same time who at his request in his presence and in the presence )
of each other subscribe our names as Witnesses. )
Charles Ashford Clerk to Mr Robt. T Campion Solr. Exeter.
Alfred Whiteway 9 Bedford Circus Exeter.

This is a Codicil to the last Will of me John Laidman of Exeter Gentleman bearing date the 12th day of December One thousand eight hundred and seventy seven. I hereby revoke the legacy given by my said Will to my Clerk Frank Bowring White by reason of his dishonesty. I give to my servant boy Alfred Whiteway Five pounds if living with me at the time of my decease For the sake of my dear children and grandchildren and because my circumstances are now altered I revoke the several legacies given by my said Will to my dear Sister Mary Anne French and to my dear Brother Mark Laidman
In all other respects [I] hereby confirm my said Will and the Codicils thereto heretofore made by me. Dated this second day of October One thousand eight hundred and seventy eight.
Signed by the said John Laidman in the presence of us both being )
present at the same time who at his request in his presence and in the ) J. Laidman
presence of each other subscribe our names as Witnesses. )
Charles Ashford ) Clerks to Mr. Robt. T Campion
Albert Hayward ) Solr. Exeter.


Proved with a Codicil at Exeter the twenty second day of April 1880 by the Oath of William Joseph Richards, one of the Executors named in the Will to whom Administration was granted. Horace Charles Lloyd the other Executor and one of the Residuary Legatees in Trust named in the said Will having duly renounced the probate and execution of the said Will and Codicil.
The Testator John Laidman was late of the City of Exeter Solicitor and died on the twenty eighth day of September 1879 at Eaton Place in Exeter aforesaid.
Under £200.
Daw & Son Solrs. Exeter.

I certify that the foregoing are correct copies of the original Will and Codicil of John Laidman, deceased.
Spouses
Birth1794, Whitestone, DEV
Baptism4 Aug 1794, Whitestone, DEV
Bapt Memo1794 Fanny D. of John and Martha Marchant Agust 4th
DeathM1875, Exeter, DEV
FatherJohn MARCHANT , 12568
MotherMartha , 18054
Misc. Notes
1841 census return: HO107/266/19 folios 8-9 pages 38-39
Castle Street, Exeter, Devon
John Laidman, 43, Solicitor, N
Fanny Laidman, 45, Y
Charles Laidman, 16, Y
Francis Laidman, 10, Y
William Laidman, 6, Y
Martha Laidman, 2, Y
Charles Richards, 19, Clerk, Y
+ 2 servants

1851 Census Returns HO107/1869 folio 164 page 51
3 Bedford Circus, Exeter, Devon
John Laidman, head, married, 52, Solicitor, born Surrey Newington Butts
Fanny Laidman, wife, married, 56, born Devon Whitestone
William F.M. Laidman, son, 15, born Exeter, St Lawrence
+ housemaid & cook

1861 census return: RG9/1398 folio 25 page 41
9 Bedford Circus, Exeter
John Laidman, Head, Mar, 62, Solicitor & Treasurer of the City and Borough of Exeter, born Newington Butts, Surrey
Fanny Laidman, Wife, Mar, 65, born Whitestone, Devon
William Follett Laidman, Son, Un, 25, Medical Student, born Exeter, Devon
Elizabeth Berry, Sister in Law, Widow, ?68, Gentlewoman, born Whitestone, Devon
Elizabeth White, Serv, Un, 23, General Serv, born Hatherleigh, Devon
Elizabeth Barnett, Visitor, Widow, 50, Gentlewoman, born Hestford ^Wellington^ Somerset

1871 census return: RG10/2068 folio 77 page 45
[Devonshire] Exeter, Precinct of Bedford, 9 Bedford Circus
John Laidman, Head, Mar, 72, Solicitor, born Newington Butts Surrey
Fanny Laidman, Wife, Mar, 74, born Whitstone [sic],, Devon
Elizabeth Berry, Sister in law, W, 82, born Whitstone [sic] Devon
Elizabeth Barnet, Lodger, W, 64, born Wellington Somerset
Emily Gleddon, Visitor, Unm, 35, born St. Davids, Exeter
Ann Milford, Serv, Unm, 35, Domestic Serv, born Ide Devon
Henry Way, Serv, Unm, 14, Domestic Serv, born North Tawton Devon

The death cert. of Francis Marchant Laidman in Australia gives his mother as Fanny LOVEGROVE whereas the Devon I.G.I. gives her name as Marchant. Brenda Harper Hopkins is inclined to accept that in this case the I.G.I. is correct - "John (in Exeter) and his brother Leonard (in London): both had sons named Henry Lovegrove, and it doesn't "feel right" somehow that a brother should name his child after his sister in law," so she feels the name LOVEGROVE may have been much earlier in the family.
Marriage10 Mar 1823, Exeter, DEV
Marr MemoSt Mary Steps
Misc. Notes
MARRIAGES solemnized in the Parish of St. Marys Steps in the County of the City of Exeter in the Year 1823

John Laidman of the Parish All hallows on the Walls in the City of Exeter a Bachelor and Fanny Marchant of this Parish of All Hallows on the Walls Spinster were married in this church by Licence both of Age this tenth Day of March in the Year One thousand eight hundred and twenty three
By me Wm Carwithen, Rector
This Marriage was solemnized between us J Laidman / F Marchant
In the Presence of Ths Harker / Ann Marchant
No. 188
ChildrenEmily , 3368, O1918 (bp. 1823-1824)
 Charles John , 3349, O1168 (ca1825-1874)
 Henry Lovegrove , 3457, O1919 (ca1827-1867)
 Fanny Laura , 3458, O1920 (1829-1906)
 Francis Marchant , 3123, P1178 (ca1831-1879)
 Cecilia Elizabeth , 3460, P1921 (bp. 1833-1835)
 William Follett Montagu , 3121, P1185 (ca1835-1870)
 Martha , 16545, P1695 (1839-)
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